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# Conversation — agent-acompact-bc3cd9f47db869e1.jsonl L282

**When:** 2026-03-19T11:25:57.483Z

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## Canonical spine (M_L)

**PRIMUS:** Willful avoidance of harm of self and others equally.  
**SECUNDUS:** Willful seeking of healing of self and others equally.  
**TERTIUM:** Willful pursuit of benefit of self and others equally.

Love is the sole logic that produces mutual prosperity without a zero-sum trade.

- Full paper: `MASTER DOCS/PAPER/Another_Paper_Draft_v1.md`
- OSF preregistration: https://osf.io/qa54c
- Corpus phase: extract v0.1 (mined from local Braid archive)